July 30, 2004

Strange Bedfellows

I guess Islam and Creationist Christianity have more in common than they think - for instance, archaeology is trumped by dogma:

If people in Adams(pbuh) time were 60+ ft tall, how come we never find any remains close to that tall.

The oldest human remains found are 20000 years old, they are relitively the same size. When find dinosaur bone which are far far older than humans
The rest of the question was deleted by the Imam, which, incidentally, reveals another commonality between the two religions - neither deals with dinosaurs very well.

Anyway, the Imam had this to say in response:

Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said that 'Aadam (Alayhis salaam) was 30 Ziraa tall.'

Ziraa is a measurement and one Ziraa is approximately half metre. The Hadith is authentic and that is siffucient for us. Scientific and archeological evidences are subordinate to Hadith.
Another article of faith the Young-Earthers would have no trouble getting behind is the Noachine flood:
Does it say in the holy Quran whether the flood that affected Noah and his family was a worldwide or local one? Did it affect the whole world or only the village where Nuh(as) and his family lived.

1. The floods encompassed the whole world. (Tafseer Mazhari vol.6 pg.40)
2. Allah Ta'ala ordered Nooh to take onto the ship those useful to man. Nooh (Alayhis salaam) excluded animals which live in water and earthly creatures. (Bayaanul Qur'aan vol.1 pg.47; Hashiyatul Jamal; Tafseer Baghawi vol.2 pg.34). The first to enter was a parrot and the last was a donkey.
Actually, it can be said that Islam has issues with science in general, because there's a serious chicken-and-egg problem inherent in believing that things in the universe rotate the way they do because worshipers of the Ka'aba walk around it in a counter-clockwise fashion:
On examination, it will be found that the entire universe which is in constant circular or elliptical rotation, is in actual fact moving in the pattern as the Tawaf [ritual circumambulation of the Ka'aba by pilgrims]. The electrons of an atom revolve around its nucleus in the same manner as making Tawaf, in an anti-clockwise direction. The ovum, prior to fertilisation actually taking place, surrounded by sperms, turns remarkably in anti-clockwise direction, thereby resembling the Tawaf. Considering the globe as a whole, it could be found that the earth has two movements. It rotates on its own axis in 24 hours causing day and night. The various seasons of the year are due to the earth's simultaneous revolution around the sun in 365 days. It is really astonishing to note that the earth, in both these movements, rotates anti-clockwise. The entire universe from the atom to the galaxies is in constant circular rotation like a circumambulator who encircles the Kaaba in the anti-clockwise direction. All objects in the universe, atoms, moon, stars, electrical current, galaxies, etc. are rotating in the same way. Moreover, the angles encircle the heavenly Baitul Ma'mur in an ever-lasting Tawaf. In the same way, the Kaaba in Makkah is never free from circumbulators. "Know that the world has come to an end when no soul will circlembulate the holy Kaaba."
Well, sure, everything in nature rotates in a counter-clockwise fashion - IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE RIGHT DIRECTION! I can just as easily say that everything rotates in a clockwise fashion, too!

Speaking of chicken-and-egg problems, it's also an article of faith that Adam and Abraham prayed facing Mecca thousands of years before Mecca existed!

Which Qibla did Adam(AS) and Ibrahim(AS) face while praying when, I think, Al-Aqsa Mosque was not built at that time? Why did Qibla was changed from Bait-ulMaqhis to Kaaba?

The Qiblah of Aadam (Alayhis salaam) and Ebrahim (Alayhis salaam) was the Ka’abah in Makkah Mukarramah. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) faced Baytul Maqdis with the order of Alah and turned towards the Ka’abah also with the order of Allah.

Posted by Chris at July 30, 2004 09:26 AM

Category: Damn, That's Funny
Comments

Chris,

Obviously you just don't get it. I'm sorry, but you will have to be stoned to death.

Posted by: chess h at July 30, 2004 11:24 AM

Is this a public stoning?

Posted by: 2!3054). at July 30, 2004 03:49 PM